self-reporting? Medi really?
so I know this has been a thing for a couple of months now- but yo know me, I've been off the radar for a couple of months so 💀
I never really took the time to make a topic about it bc at the time I honestly didn't care since its ARTstreet being ARTstreet. But can we please talk about how Medi expects people who are tracing or posting AI generated art to "self-report" themselves? Now, I get there are different situations where tracing is allowed like tracing over free to use bases (like the ones Medi offers) and all of that. But a majority of the time, people who trace bases or original works of art generally don't give credit for a reason: THEY ARE STEALING :'D And I personally find it hilarious that Medi just expects people who do this to be like "You know what? Maybe I don't like being the bad guy anymore *self-reports on their submission*" You know, if that's the case, they probably just won't post the submission-? 😂
And personally, I don't understand why people who do trace free to use bases need to fill out the "traced illustration" under the "information about this work" when they could just say they used a base in their description of their submission (plus where they got it or credit)? To me, those who aren't stealing art by tracing and are using bases may get their accounts flagged if they honestly fill this stuff out and that worries me since I know some of the people who follow me do use some of medi's free to use bases- and that's just unfair in general. The actual people who are out here tracing and stealing work and then purposefully not crediting will still get away with it. This is just a superfical fix in my opinion (although everyone on ARTstreet has probably already said this XD)
As for the AI thing- I didn't know this existed till a like a month or two ago. But from what I know from it, AI generated art (a majority of the time) steals bits and pieces from other pieces of art and makes something "new" from them (based off the prompt you give the AI). This is obviously art theft taken to the futuristic extreme- Now not all AI's are like this, there are AI's that generate or make art without stealing others art but overall I don't think Medi should allow AI art to begin with- That whole option is just as useful as the tracing one.
If you do post AI art, link your AI so people can research it to see if it does steal others art bc (I would hope) most of the time, the person posting AI art doesn't know the AI stole art in the first place. Or just don't post AI art- try actually making the Art yourself and posting it to a platform with other people who spent the time and effort actually making the art they're posting? even the shootposts-
Overall I think Medibang's recent changes are unsurprisingly not helpful and just them basically wanting us to stop complaining. Its honestly just getting sad at this point and I feel like Medi has also made the algorithm worse since I've been away? I think I've said this before but I post my art at a specific time because the algorithm favors my art (as well as others) at that time and its easier for those who follow me to find it or see it. Anytime I post outside of this time my posts generally do worse than those that were posted at that time- That's Medi's algorithm for you- its unforgiving and favorites specific creators and if you don't meet those standards-? You need to find a place and time to be favored by it- kinda like Youtube.
Also- I'd like to just add here, at the bottom of all of this- Dexx, a fabulous content creator on ARTstreet, still hasn't had their frozen account fixed- Medibang told them they did something wrong but didn't give them details- Something they could fix or learn from even- They just froze their account. Which reminds me of Youtubes problems right now regarding how they treat their creators and when they strike.flag accounts and posts but never tell the creator what the did specifically.
Also, I've tried many times trying to find Medi or ARTstreets rules and explanations on the LEVELing system and all of that and I can never find it- They don't have any rules or service or any of that located anywhere on their website (from what I could find, if you find something PLEASE PLEASE LINK IT). So, basically, we're posting art to a platform that knows its own rules but we don't. We're in the dark while Medi isn't and can ban or freeze accounts here and there and further leave us in the dark. How fair is that?
okay, thanks for coming to my ted talk- stay safe and fresh pepperonis
and if my account yeets from existence after I post this, medi got me :'D
my discord: kiwi_zilla#4409
I never really took the time to make a topic about it bc at the time I honestly didn't care since its ARTstreet being ARTstreet. But can we please talk about how Medi expects people who are tracing or posting AI generated art to "self-report" themselves? Now, I get there are different situations where tracing is allowed like tracing over free to use bases (like the ones Medi offers) and all of that. But a majority of the time, people who trace bases or original works of art generally don't give credit for a reason: THEY ARE STEALING :'D And I personally find it hilarious that Medi just expects people who do this to be like "You know what? Maybe I don't like being the bad guy anymore *self-reports on their submission*" You know, if that's the case, they probably just won't post the submission-? 😂
And personally, I don't understand why people who do trace free to use bases need to fill out the "traced illustration" under the "information about this work" when they could just say they used a base in their description of their submission (plus where they got it or credit)? To me, those who aren't stealing art by tracing and are using bases may get their accounts flagged if they honestly fill this stuff out and that worries me since I know some of the people who follow me do use some of medi's free to use bases- and that's just unfair in general. The actual people who are out here tracing and stealing work and then purposefully not crediting will still get away with it. This is just a superfical fix in my opinion (although everyone on ARTstreet has probably already said this XD)
As for the AI thing- I didn't know this existed till a like a month or two ago. But from what I know from it, AI generated art (a majority of the time) steals bits and pieces from other pieces of art and makes something "new" from them (based off the prompt you give the AI). This is obviously art theft taken to the futuristic extreme- Now not all AI's are like this, there are AI's that generate or make art without stealing others art but overall I don't think Medi should allow AI art to begin with- That whole option is just as useful as the tracing one.
If you do post AI art, link your AI so people can research it to see if it does steal others art bc (I would hope) most of the time, the person posting AI art doesn't know the AI stole art in the first place. Or just don't post AI art- try actually making the Art yourself and posting it to a platform with other people who spent the time and effort actually making the art they're posting? even the shootposts-
Overall I think Medibang's recent changes are unsurprisingly not helpful and just them basically wanting us to stop complaining. Its honestly just getting sad at this point and I feel like Medi has also made the algorithm worse since I've been away? I think I've said this before but I post my art at a specific time because the algorithm favors my art (as well as others) at that time and its easier for those who follow me to find it or see it. Anytime I post outside of this time my posts generally do worse than those that were posted at that time- That's Medi's algorithm for you- its unforgiving and favorites specific creators and if you don't meet those standards-? You need to find a place and time to be favored by it- kinda like Youtube.
Also- I'd like to just add here, at the bottom of all of this- Dexx, a fabulous content creator on ARTstreet, still hasn't had their frozen account fixed- Medibang told them they did something wrong but didn't give them details- Something they could fix or learn from even- They just froze their account. Which reminds me of Youtubes problems right now regarding how they treat their creators and when they strike.flag accounts and posts but never tell the creator what the did specifically.
Also, I've tried many times trying to find Medi or ARTstreets rules and explanations on the LEVELing system and all of that and I can never find it- They don't have any rules or service or any of that located anywhere on their website (from what I could find, if you find something PLEASE PLEASE LINK IT). So, basically, we're posting art to a platform that knows its own rules but we don't. We're in the dark while Medi isn't and can ban or freeze accounts here and there and further leave us in the dark. How fair is that?
okay, thanks for coming to my ted talk- stay safe and fresh pepperonis
and if my account yeets from existence after I post this, medi got me :'D
my discord: kiwi_zilla#4409
